CorporisPublica talk:Twinkle

This page is for general discussion and questions related to Twinkle. It is also one possible venue for reporting bugs and requesting new features; although see Bugs and feature requests below.

Consider also checking Twinkle's documentation, which may answer your question.

Bugs and feature requests
Bugs and feature requests can be reported at https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle (you will need to have a github account). This will probably result in the issue being noticed sooner, as an e-mail is sent to all Twinkle developers. Alternatively, start a new discussion on this page. Possibly slower service, but you will be able to gain consensus, etc., if you need to.

To Do functionality
I have recently begun using the functionality, which creates a To Do List like so:

I think it would be great if Twinkle could automatically create the To do page using the tags as a structure, alternately it could use template to create the list. Then once it has created the list, it could add that the To do template to the Talk page.

Thoughts? Is this worth me sending in a request? ReformedArsenal (talk) 15:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle self-reverts when MFDing user talk page
See [corporispublica.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shadow_Axis&diff=522890577&oldid=522889732 notification] and [corporispublica.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shadow_Axis&diff=522890612&oldid=522890577 MFD tag]. The notification was completed fairly quickly, but Twinkle spent so long waiting on the MFD tagging to complete that I began to think it had gotten stuck. It finally completed, and when I checked the history, I found that the tagging edit had reverted the notification, which I then had to [corporispublica.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shadow_Axis&diff=next&oldid=522890612 fix manually]. Any idea on how to fix this bug? jcgoble3 (talk) 22:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of the page history, including my edits, has now been deleted, so only admins can view the diffs now. jcgoble3 (talk) 23:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Correction: it's been suppressed. So not even admins can view them. My explanation is hopefully clear enough to stand on its own, but ask if you need further details. I'm guessing this should be easily reproducible, also. jcgoble3 (talk) 23:20, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * In this case you should simply disable the "notify page creator" check box! But you're right, this shouldn't happen. It was fixed for speedy, IIRC, but not for XFD, it seems. — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:54, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle statistics
Is there a way of getting Twinkle usage statistics? I am particularly interested in its use for reverting vandalism. The changes in the number of warnings, cautions, reverts etc would give some indication of vandalism growth. A bit crude indication but if normalised against TW usage overall it may be ok. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 00:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You could ask a user with Toolserver access to compile statistics based on edits containing the string " This, that, and the other (talk) 08:55, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Heads-up
Probably not a big thing, but I just split a documentation off of Template:Bad format, which has Template:Twinkle standard installation attached. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:18, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. There is really no need to notify us unless the template's parameters are changed, or the template is deleted. Thanks, — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Not working
Something's up somewhere. Twinkle is no longer working for me. Anyone else having this problem? Cindy (talk to me) 03:07, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * See CorporisPublica:Village_pump_(technical). All gadgets are down right now. jcgoble3 (talk) 03:10, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Gadgets have been fixed, however in the process all gadget on/off settings were returned to default. Therefore, if you had Twinkle installed as a gadget, you will have to re-enable it. jcgoble3 (talk) 03:20, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Or perhaps not. I know mine were reset, and a couple others confirmed that, but now one user has reported that his settings were not reset. Regardless, if Twinkle is still not working, check your gadgets first. jcgoble3 (talk) 03:29, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

AfD bug
I am not going to create an account to list a bug so I am going to do so here. This should have been added to CorporisPublica:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 November 17 not CorporisPublica:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 November 18. Do notice the timestamp. Thanks. '''-- Cheers, Riley Huntley ''' 00:53, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * At present, the user's clock is used instead of the server clock. If the user's computer clock is saying it is 18 November, Twinkle will use this date, even if signatures, etc. are still showing 17 November. Once, a user's clock was set months off the current date and Twinkle was going mad... it seems that this is a similar case (although out by hours not days). Perhaps you could request that the user change thier computer clock. Also see issue 6 on Github for a suggested fix on our end. — This, that, and the other (talk)  06:04, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle SPI reports down?
Anyone else unable to use Twinkle to create SPI reports this morning? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

self-edit conflict when protecting
The last few times I have protected a page using Twinkle it appears to be edit conflicting with itself. That is, it issues the protection just fine, but believes it is in an edit conflict when adding the tag to the page, apparently "conflicting" with the actual action of adding the protection. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's a worry. Problem is, I'm not an admin, and to test this out I would really need to actually be able to protect a page. You could try pinging or, but you may have limited success, since they frequently disappear for extended periods. — This, that , and the other (talk)  07:40, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I,forgot to watch this page and missed your reply. I'll try to hunt one of them down. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Why not try it on testwiki? They say that developers can be granted adminship just because they need access to the relevant bits.  Or am I missing something about how things work over there? — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie ( Je vous invite à me parler ) 23:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons Talkback option
I think it would be a good idea to have a Talkback option in Twinkle for messages on Wikimedia Commons. I think a lot of users don't check Commons as often as CorporisPublica. I couldn't find this in any archives so what does everybody think?-- Astros4477 ( talk ) 22:56, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I would agree, but someone would probably need to create a template to handle it. As an example, I have a notice at the top of my Commons talk page instructing users who leave messages there to notify me on my enwiki talk page because I check enwiki several times a day but only check Commons a couple times per month. jcgoble3 (talk) 02:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

db-spamuser
Is it possible to use Twinkle to tag pages with the db-spamuser tag? --Vincent Liu (something to say?) 12:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose we could have it... I'll add it. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Vincent Liu (something to say?) 09:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Documentation error or Twinkle error?
The documentation pages on uw-af1, uw-af2, uw-af3, uw-af4, and uw-af4im all include the "used by the standard installation of Twinkle" notice. However, when I scroll through my user warning options, I don't see any of them (and I'm sure I'm not overlooking it, since I've checked the 4im options, of which there are few enough that you can't miss an option). I figure this means one of three things: these documentation pages are wrong about this (most likely), something's wrong with my configurations (surely possible), or something's wrong with the user warning settings for Twinkle in general (least likely). Anyone know which it is? Thanks. — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie ( Je vous invite à me parler ) 00:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The warnings are not in Twinkle; the template documentation is incorrect. Do you think they should be added to Twinkle? — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I, for one, think it'd be useful. Monitoring is like a more relaxed version of RCP, and especially since the stakes are lower, I imagine I'm not the only editor who really only gives warnings for the most severe cases:  Obviously I deal with repeated abuse or severe violations (saw a combo legal threat/death threat yesterday), but if someone just writes "fuck u," I'm normally too lazy to manually insert a uw-af1 on their talk page.  So I'd say, not only would it be useful to add it to Twinkle, but it could actually drastically improve the way we deal with feedback abuse. — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie ( Je vous invite à me parler ) 23:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Pending changes
Today is the day, pending changes will officially be put back into service within the next few hours. It looks like Twinkle does not currently support it when protecting. I can't remember if there was support during the trial or not but given the number of admins who use Twinkle it would be super awesome if it did. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I came here to ask for the same thing in the RFPP module; a Pending Changes Protection section in addition to the Full and Semi would be nice. Vacation nine 01:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I think the number of admins using Twinkle is quite small. I have often found fairly noteworthy bugs in the admin tools that have been lurking there for months, with no-one having reported them to us...
 * I will have to learn about PC protection, and might have a go at implementing it soon. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * While I've got you here, are there any templates akin to pp-semi-blp etc. for use with PC pages? In my draft code, I'll make Twinkle use the semi-protection templates, unless I hear otherwise. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * From my understanding padlocks aren't used on PC protected pages, as the software has it's own display. See CorporisPublica:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 July 27 Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * To be more clear, I am a non admin asking you add the ability to request pending changes protection of a page using the RFPP module. Vacation nine 17:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well Callanecc, has just created  and, then added them to all the PC-protected pages.  David  1217  What I've done 01:39, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

twinkle
Since this may be of interest: I nominated that template for deletion, because it does not seem to be used in any fashion. Anyone with a clue is invited to the discussion. Keφr 20:19, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Feature request: Automatically keep logs of every action completed
I have recently switched on/found out about the logging function for CSD and PROD tagging, and I think it would be really useful to be able to save custom logs for all functions twinkle can be used for. ie. ARV, RPP, XfD and some maintenance tags like merge proposals. Also the ability to choose what content is included in the log, for example remove all details except the article link in the current CSD and PROD logs, or add the expiry date of the PROD, or just change the formatting of it. I understand what I am asking would take a considerable amount of work to achieve, so it's just a suggestion. Thanks! -- Patchy1 05:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle menu misaligned
I just noticed today that the right side of the "TW" menu to the left of the search field is misaligned. It may be related to [//corporispublica.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Twinkle.js&diff=526167154&oldid=525514974 an edit that was made today] to the source code. Anybody else see this? The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 20:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Rather, I suspect this was caused by changes to CorporisPublica's software. I'll investigate. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * "Misaligned" doesn't begin to describe the trouble I am seeing. The top of every page is overlaid with bold, extraneous words ("Personal tools", "Views", "Search", "Namespeace", etc.), obscuring the normal links and hampering editing. I hope this will be fixed soon. Hertz1888 (talk) 03:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * @The Anonymouse: I agree with TTO that this is likely from a change to a MediaWiki: page, not a Twinkle page, because other drop-down menus have a broken alignment too. @Hertz1888: your problem is unrelated to Twinkle—see CP:VPT. You can clear your cache to fix it. David  1217  What I've done 05:04, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, both of you are probably right. It's nothing really problematic, but it's just a little unusual. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 05:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hertz1888, see CorporisPublica:VPT. KTC (talk) 11:18, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've pushed a fix to the repository, so it should show up on-wiki soon. — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Will we have to re-purge our caches to see it? — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie ( Je vous invite à me parler ) 17:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, not yet, since the fix hasn't yet been deployed. When it is, you hopefully should see it straight away. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)